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BUt many Ullima have said this is bidah and even maliki Ullima say there is NO Hadith not even a da'eef hadith for this. Can you expalin this and tell us if this was really the opnion on Imaam Malik and if it is ok to pray like this? Praise be to Allah. And Allaah knows best. Add a comment. Type of comment Comment on academic content Comment on spelling Request translation of the answer Request clarification of the answer. Questions cannot be asked through this form.

Password Password should contain small, capital letter and at least 8 characters long. Forgot username or password? Ali bn Abi Talib narrates,the prophet saw said:the key to prayer is purification and its beginning is the takbir,and its ending is the taslim. When he said taslim,one would not say two taslim,if you say so,we would say he meant two takbirs too,which is not accepted only one takbiratul ihraam.

Imam tabari relates that muhammad ibn sireen and hasan relates that Anas said:I ibn malik prayed behind abu bakr,prophet saw,umar and uthman,all of them used to say the taslim once. Ibn qudamah,a hanbali juris said in al mughni:there was no clear text from imam ahmad that state two salams are obligatory.

Ibn al mundhir said all scholars agreed that making only one salam is permitted. Your intention is for the angels knowingly on your shoulders the right side writing down your deeds and left side writing down your sins all in a book. I'd expect you're sending peace blessing and mercy to those angels on your shoulders.

I never heard of tasleem for the people around you, I mean what if you're alone? So that's why I think it's the first way. Sign up to join this community. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Stack Overflow for Teams — Collaborate and share knowledge with a private group.

Create a free Team What is Teams? Learn more. How does the Maliki school make Tasleem at the end of salat? Ask Question. Asked 9 years, 2 months ago. Active 1 year, 5 months ago. Viewed 14k times. I would like to know, how do the Malaki school of fiqh make Tasleem in salat?

Improve this question. Alex Strasser 2 2 silver badges 22 22 bronze badges. Add a comment. The ahl al-hadith , after checking both the sanad and text of the hadith , were generally more willing to adopt the hadith after it could be ascertained that it was not abrogated. The Hanafis however placed two other conditions, namely that the person who transmitted the hadith is not known to have acted contrary to their report, and that it is a matter that does not necessitate the knowledge of a vast number of people.

In the first condition, there is a hadith which states that "When a dog licks a dish, wash it seven times, one of which must be with clean earth. Another example from the Hanafis is the issue of the wali. The Hanafis have ruled that a wali is not an essential part of the nikkah , and hence a nikkah is valid without one, even though there is a sahih hadith that states, "There is no marriage without a wali ," along with others which state something similar.

An example from Imam Malik is the same issue above, that of the dog. One of the animals that the Arabs used to hunt with was dogs. In light of the fact that there is no other proof to substantiate it, Imam Malik and his madhhab rejected it and consider all living animals, and that which is pure from humans i.

Even to the extent that the left over water that a dog has drunken from is considered tahir for taharah. Imam Malik and the Madinan Divergence. The proofs are the ayat stated above, along with ahadith :.

My community will not agree on an error. Madina is sacred, and throws out its dross as fire cast out the dross of metal. Islam will cling to Madina as a serpent clings to its hole. The rational reasoning behind this was stated by Imam Malik himself, who said,. About 10, of them died in Madina, and the rest split up in the cities. Which would you prefer to follow and whose words would you prefer to take? The understanding that Malik had comes down to common sense.

Madina, was the first Islamic state established, hence, all the relevant historical occurrences happened in Madina. The Prophet made hijra there, lived out his life there, and died there.

Revelation came while he was in the city, and the whole area was illuminated by its effect. If there was ever a sunnah established, it was done in Madina. If there ever was a relevant hadith , it was known in Madina.

If there ever was a city that deserved to be followed, it was Madina. As it can be noticed from the quotes that are dispersed throughout this article, Imam Malik was primarily concerned with Madina and did not feel that any other city had a legitimate claim to be equal, let alone superior.

I have never heard any of the people of knowledge and fiqh and those whom people take as an example. I have not heard that any of our predecessors used to do that, and the people of knowledge disapprove of it.

This is what we do, and what I have seen the people of knowledge in our city doing. And many other statements along those lines. Similarly, the knowledge of the scholars in the city was derived from this same fountain as an inherited reality as opposed to a theoretical speculation.

It will either: contradict the ahadith , confirm the ahadith , contradict one while affirming another other, explain the ahadith , or speak when ahadith are silent. The practice is more firmly established than ahadith. One whom I emulate said, "It is distressing that it should be said concerning the like of that, "So-and-so related to me from so-and-so". This perspective was not something that Imam Malik arbitrarily invented on his own due an exaggerated love and respect that many felt Imam Malik had for Madina, but it was instead the understanding that was taught to him by his teachers.

Hence, it was stated by him, that while still learning in his youth he noticed that,. The men from the people of knowledge among the Followers conveyed ahadith which had been conveyed to them from others and they said, 'We are not ignorant of this, but the past action is other than it. I witnessed Muhammad ibn Abi Bakr ibn 'Amr ibn Hazm who was a qadi and his brother 'Abdullah, a truthful man who had memorized many ahadith.

When Muhammad gave a judgement in which a hadith had come contrary to the judgement, I heard 'Abdullah criticise him, saying, "Hasn't this and this come in this hadith? Why don't you give judgement by it? He meant that the action is stronger than the hadith in it.

By Allah Almighty, I will make it difficult for a man who relates hadith different from it i. Which is possibly one of the reasons why he ordered that all ahadith collections be burned. The same holds true when it both confirms and contradicts, the correctness of the confirmed hadith is raised above the one that it contradicts, and the latter is disregarded.

Yahya ibn Yahya said: Malik was asked about doubling the adhan and the iqama , and at what point people had to stand when the iqama for the prayer was called. He said, "I have heard nothing about the adhan and iqama except what I have seen people do. As for the iqama , it is not doubled. This is what the people of knowledge in our region continue to do. Ashadu anla ilaha ill Allah, Ashadu anla ilaha ill Allah.

A nd again, in a louder voice: Ashadu anla ilaha ill Allah, Ashadu anla ilaha ill Allah. Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar, La ilaha ill Allah. Now, if we turn to Sahih Muslim , we find the hadith :. And the narrator added: Allahu akbar, Allahu akbar. La ilaha ill Allah. Muslim None of the ahadith mention the softening and raising of the voice between the two sets of the shahadatyn , even though they mention the repetition, and the people of Madina, apparently, were the only people to call the adhan in this manner.

Abu Yusuf said to Malik, "You do the adhan with tarjih, but you have no hadith from the Prophet about this. I have never seen anything more amazing than this.

Does this need "So-and-so from so-and-so"? This is sounder asahh in our opinion than hadith. In sahih Muslim, the hadith just before the one quoted above, its states:. Anas said: Bilal was ordered to double the adhan and pronounce the iqama only once. Abu Qilaba: Anas said, "Bilal was ordered to pronounce the wording of Adhan twice and of Iqama once only. Qad-Qamatis-Salat which should be said twice. Anas reported: Bilal was commanded by the Apostle of Allah to repeat the phrases of Adhan twice and once in Iqama.

The narrator said: I made a mention of it before Ayyub who said: Except for saying: Qamat-is-Salat [the time for prayer has come]. There is a ahadith that is recorded in both Sahih Mulim and several other collections which states:. He who fast Ramadan and six days of Shawwal, it will be as if he had fasted the whole year. Yahya said that he heard Malik say, about fasting for six days after breaking the fast at the end of Ramadan, that he had never seen any of the people of knowledge and fiqh fasting them.

He said, "I have not heard that any of our predecessors used to do that, and the people of knowledge disapprove of it and they are afraid that it might become a bida and that common and ignorant people might join to Ramadan what does not belong to it, if they were to think that the people of knowledge had given permission for that to be done and were seen doing it.

Because of this, and the reason that Imam Malik gave in response to the question, there is a principle in Maliki fiqh that something is which is inherently permissible can be declared makruh, if affirmed by other proofs, in order that people do not take it to be a wajib. However, this can be seen in the seerah of the Prophet, when during Ramadan, the Prophet came out for tahujjud three nights in a row, but failed to come out the forth night.

So thus, in the Maliki madhhab , the fasting of the six days of Shawwal is makruh , immediately following Ramadan. The hadith is instead interpreted to mean that fasting the full Ramadan, and any six days out of the year, is like fasting the whole year, and Shawwal was just an example that was mentioned, when it is even considered at all.

Another example of a contradiction is in reference to fasting on Jumah. The other three schools consider to haram to fast on Fridays specifically, based on the hadith ,. Yahya said that he heard Malik say, "I have never heard any of the people of knowledge and fiqh and those whom people take as an example forbidding fasting on the day of jumah. Fasting on it is good, and I have seen one of the people of knowledge fasting it, and it seemed to me that he was keen to do so.

And hence, the rule of the prohibition of fasting only on Friday is not upheld by the Malikis. In regards to the tasleem , there are many ahadith that narrate the Prophet making tasleemat in a variety of ways.

It is narrated in. Adding 'wa rahmatu-l-lahi wa barakatuh' after the final salam of the prayer is against preferable, as it contradicts the Practice of Medina, although the hadith which indicates it is a confirmed hadith sahih.

Then you say, " As-salamu 'alaykum " once, starting to the front and turning to the right a little as you say it. This is what the imam does or anyone doing the prayer by themselves. If you are doing the prayer behind an imam you say the salam once, turning a little to the right, then you return the salam of the imam towards the front and then, if there is anyone on your left who has said the salam , you greet them in return. You do not say the salam to the left if no one has said it to you.

Also the fact Imam Malik never reported it is also proof that this is not his opinion. The hadith that is sahih never says the prophet put his hands back down to his sides after the takbir, it just simply is a general hadith and then said he went to recite fatiha.

This hadith is a weak adila even though it is authentic in itself. Because it says the prophet raised his hands for takbir, then recited, What happened after the Takbir?

That is why it is important to learn fiqh. All the hadiths about qabd are not hadith mutawatir. If it was, then there would be no difference in the topic. Also the hadiths do not mentioned to be put on the chest.

There is below the navel and there hadiths about putting between the belly and chest but not directly on the chest. None of the four madhahib list that in the salah. Wa Llahu Alim. Anyway, jazakallah khair Shaykh Suhaib on this post. As a student of the school of Imam Malik it was nice to read such a succinct statement regarding the issue of sadl.

May Allah bless you and your family. Well, all opinions of The Four Madhhabs are considered valid. So as a Muslim, we should not take this as a great issue. The sadl and qabd problem is just a sunnah in salah, not the fard one. You can choose your madhhab preference, and you still a Muslim, not a heretical one. We agree to differ for qabd and sadl, and still respecting each other, just like all Islamic jurisprudence imams respecting each other.

Even Imam Maalik had said, if i teach you something and you find the evidence or proof that the prophet has tought different then follow what the prophet had taught. Am not a knowledgable person in Islam and in case there is a mistake then it is mine and may Allah protect us from its harm. And Allah knows Best. Assalamu alaikum, to the brother who wrote this, by saying it is clear proof that the hands could be on the side because the narrators did not mention the clasping of the hands together, is nothing but an assumption.

Witch means the same argument can be used for other assumption such as; the Hadith did not mention the prophet turning his head from right to left when prayer was finished nor did the Hadith mention the recitation of anything.

So my point is there is no room for assumptions, ijtihad, in the religion when there is factual proof, athentic narrations, that contradicts the assumption. Salam all, joining the discussion. I have heard that Rasool pbuh days that the Ummah will never all agree on falsehood. If I understood that Hadith correctly, then it becomes apparent to me that folding the hands is closer to the truth because the great majority of muslims around the world folds their arms in Salah. But no need to boycott those who choose a different position.

They could be sincere in their understanding. Allah grant us tolerance. As Salamu Alaikum. I do not believe that any way of performing salah be it Hanafi, Maliki, Shafii, Hanabli and even Wahabi is correct. The way of performing salah has gone under many modifications.

That is why, we should carry out research and discover the only one way what prophet pbuh did at his last life. That must be the perfect way of performing. Otherwise we will be involved in unnecessary debate. As a result he missed with lots of updated and new hadiths.

Sorry brothers, if I hurt someone, it is my personal opinion. And Allaah knows best. Just by reading through the the Al Muwatta, one can clearly understand which is more according to the sunnah. It also aligns with the other 3 great schools of taught. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Asalamu alaykum, Undoubtedly a lot of us [Malikis] have been confronted with this question many times. Muslim hadith You may also like.

View all posts. Peace, and blessing upon you and may your site have much success. Asalamu alaykum, I think a number of us maybe missing the boat here. AS When we look to the hadiths we find a number of positions for the hands: 1. The hands are folded right over left and placed on the middle area of the chest. The hands are folded right over left. In the madhab of Imam Malik r this is flexible matter for a number of reasons: 1.

Unfortunately, our community suffers from extremes: 1. Those who fight to press the issue about sadl in the name of establishing the madhab as has been reported being the case and New Jersey and California and Cleveland in the US 2.

From those who look at the practice of the madhabs as ungrounded. Salaam, Br. Thanks for this post Labib. As Salaamu alaikum What is the source of the claim that Imam Malik prayed with his hands at his sides due to the effects of torture.

May Allah Bless you, Kaleem. Thank You, Gabriel Hernandez. I hope this helps. Praise be to Allaah. Asalamu alaykum, Salim: May Allah reward you for your noble efforts and sincere concerns.